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Author Topic: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review (posted March 05, 2011)  (Read 2518 times)

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Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review

Maybe it's just me but whenever I order a conversion kit I think  'Fantastic, all the hard work has been done will just have to glue part A2 to B3 and jobs right'.  In no time all I'll have a well detailed, prototypically correct model.  When will I learn?  It's not like Profiline's Stug III F is anything but an excellent kit it is that same excellence that  deserves going the extra yard on the build.  Consequently, my planned one month build has now gone for two.  Since this kit is still available from Profiline (http://www.profiline-models.com/eShop---Export.html?list=15) I guess I can still call this a review of the kit even though it has been available for more than 12 months. So here are my impressions and an over view of the build.



Major Parts List:

Profiline Stug III Ausf F Conversion Kit
Asiatam Pz III metal hull complete with road wheels
Asiamtam Recoil Unit
Asiatam gearboxes
Tank-Modellbau  7.5 cm KwK 40L48 gun
Aber Clasps & Clamps
Heng Long Tauch Panzer upper hull
Heng Long electrics with Phyrephish mods.

Planned Future Upgrades: (when finances permit)

Elmod electrics (hurry up Mark)
Impact Tracks      


With any new build it is probably a good idea to know what you want to build form the start.  I wanted a Stug F with all the nice parts of the Profiline kit such as the headlight covers and didn't want the extra work of adding more frontal armour so immediately this build had to be an early model F produced Mar-Jun '42.  Would such a vehicle make it 6 months to the winter?  Possible, but just to be safe such a proiduction date means a summer camo pattern. Next was to scour through the reference material for examples.  One example that kept popping up were the Stug F's of Grossdeutschland. This division made a few specific modifications to their Stug's which I thought could be easily done and I had a few spare Grossdeutschland decals so why not?









Next up ---- The build.
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 12:48:01 AM »
The Build

Firstly, I really like Profiline kits, the detail and quality of the resin castings are excellent.  The best example on the Stug F are the antenna assemblies.  These are nicely detailed and I can't help but wish that they were made from metal rather than resin as if they were metal they could easliy be made functional.  The citadel attaches and fits nicely to the Heng Long superstructure and in general there isn't too much 'flash' on all the parts to remove. I've gotten used to the so called 'CD manual' which is simply a series of shots of the completed conversion. To me the biggest issue with the kit was the mantlet & gun barrel.  There is no means provided for the gun assembly to pivot nor are either the mantlet or barrel hollowed out.  Thus to make the main gun elevate up and down or to have a muzzle flash installed major modifications had to be made.

Since I wanted the model to have muzzle flash and recoil there was no choice but to discard the supplied barrel and replace it with one from Tank-Modellbau.  Because of the limited space available I chose to use an Asiatam recoil unit to  provide elevation & recoil of the main gun.  The whole assembly came together as pictured below.

Meanwhile at Watto's Stug Emporium











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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 12:48:37 AM »
 ;D :D ;D

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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 12:51:46 AM »
Men! And I just thought that this is a serious forum with no jokes and funny stuff!  >:(
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 12:52:34 AM »
I have to admit not my idea.  Saw a brilliant thread in a german group using storm troopers from Endor but unfortunately it was in german.  After you enlisted the help of Spongebob, Kamaz I thought what the hell.
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2013, 12:53:03 AM »
So its the little people who do all your work for you. Funniest post I've seen for ages. ;D ;) ;D

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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2013, 12:55:03 AM »
 ;)
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 12:55:48 AM »
Nice to know someone else has too much time on thier hands as well hey Kamaz?

Back to Watto's Stug Emporium:

Hatches, all tanks have 'em and we all want them to open.  Early Stugs always seem to have their hatches open.  The Profiline kit only provides the commders hatch as a separate piece and then the two hatches are cast as a single piece.  After some umming & ahhing I left the loaders hatch as is and only made the commanders functional. To do this I used a set of Asiatam Stug hatch hinges and of course cut the cast piece into it's two separate halves.  Beacause this hatch will open the interior details of the hatches had to be scratch built.



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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 12:56:26 AM »
One of the unique features of the F is the muffler cover that can be clearly seen in shots above.  This was cut from some sheet brass and detailed with a couple of rivets and brass rod.



The next issue was the tools.  The Stug F has a completely different positioning of tools compared to the Pz III Ausf H.  Hence they all have to be removed.  The problem here is that there is no commercially available 1/16 Pz III treadplate. The area were the tools were removed are clearly visible and will be to be hidden with stowage items, tree branches or snow. Also there is a very unique jack block, storage box combination on the F.  Basically the storage box is located on a bracket above the jack block.  However, the Stugs of Grossdeutschland have a different arrangement still.  Ooooh more real modelling - no cut part A2 from Sprue A and stick to Part B2.  The whole assembly had to be made and detailed.


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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 12:57:00 AM »
My biggest dissapointment detail wise was with the antenna holding troughs.  It really seems like they were an afterthought.  Furthermore the resin supports for the troughs on a working R/C model are just asking for trouble.  I deceided to redo the supports in brass which as an added bonus can be soldered to the air intake screens.

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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 12:57:32 AM »
Grossdeutschland Modifications
The Stug F's of  Grossdeutschland have several unique modifications.  These are as follows:

Concrete:
Concrete was added to protect the driver & loader.  To do this I filled the majority of the cavity with milliput and to give the concrete texture I used Tamiya Polyester putty heavily thinned with acetone over the top, stippled with a deer foot brush.



Extra Wheel Storage:
These Stugs carried 4 extra wheels. Two were mounted forward, one on each side of the vehicle, again to provide additional protection for the driver & loader





To the rear another two wheels were added attached to the rear stowage rack. As seen in the pics at the start of this thread.

Because of the forward wheels the toolbox on stilts was relocated to the left side aft.

Rear Stowage Rack:
A common Pz III feature. There is also an additional extension to the rack to allow 3 jerry cans to sit on the smoke dischargers.

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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 12:58:04 AM »
Painting the Stug - An excercise in PRE-SHADING

Recently I've been pretty happy with the results of preshading when painting figures.  Below is an example of a figure painted with preshading.



For those unfamiliar with the technique preshading the process involves starting with a model painted in white to which you add black into all of the places where you would expect shadows.  Basically you want to end up with a model painted in monochrome black and white.  The theory is that if you apply a thinish coat of your main colour you will easily get the tonal variations of that colour required - lighter on the exposed bits and darker in the recesses.  How you do this is a matter of personal preference.  I tend to use what maybe considered an extreme technique. Which I'll talk about later but first here is the stug in monochrome.

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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 12:58:37 AM »
Sounds like good idea, next one send some before and after shots.
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2013, 12:59:04 AM »
Tankboy, my figure painting thread has been on the to do list for more than a year.  :-[  I do have a few figures that are at the first step in the process ie.  they are painted plain white - so maybe.....  But if not I'll be going through the process with the Stug.
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2013, 12:59:32 AM »
PRESHADING
First Step:  Here is a quick run down of my preshading technique.  The first step after the construction is complete is to paint the model in a white undercoat.  The white coat is usually over an initial undercoat of either light grey or red oxide.  As you can see the Stug had an initial undercoat of red oxide.  You need this first undercoat to spot all the blemishes in the model (essential if working with resin). I use White Knight Super Primer from Bunnings.  I have had ZERO issues with this primer as it works well on plastics & metal. I DO NOT use any of the primers produced by modelling companies, Tamiya, Testors,...  The main reason for this is that they will not stand up to my technique and will come off in the next set of steps.  White Knight primer sticks and tends to stacy stuck.



When you apply the white undercoat you do not need to cover the model 100%.  If the white does not get into all the nooks & crannies thats fine cos that is exactly the effect that you want.  Once finished let this coat dry for at least 24hrs.
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Re: Profiline Stug III Ausf F Build & Review
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2013, 01:00:03 AM »
PRESHADING
Second Step:  Once the white undercoat is dry it is time to apply black into the shadows. You can do this either by a black wash, spraying black or a combination of both.  For this step I use an acrylic paint either Vallejo Black for figures or Tamiya XF-1 black for vehicles.  For the Stug I applied a black wash to make sure the black got into all of the crevices followed by airbrushing black along all the corners and edges. Your model will now look absolutely horrible.  Let it at least dry to touch before going on to the next step.



Third Step:  This is the money step.  Get a cloth rag and splash on some methylated spirits now attempt to clean off all the black.  As the cloth moves across the model it will take the black off all the raised parts (much like dry brushing) and leave black in all the crevices.  Swap from a cloth to one of those applicators that the wife, girlfriend, mistress... uses for their eye makeup to go over all the fine detail parts.


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