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RAAF Catalina
« on: May 15, 2017, 02:58:02 AM »
Just about ready for maiden, probably wrong to do mods and paint before maiden?!
Painted her as a RAAF Catalina A24-2 which performed the first medical evacuation
from Lord Howe Island 75 years ago. Floats in the retracted position as she won’t be
landing on water, belly lander only. The early RAAF Cats where painted in two tone
grey with black undersides, also used pastels to give her a good weathering.





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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2017, 07:49:53 AM »
I wish your Catalina soaring good times and happy landings!  I will watch for flight photos and flight news.
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 08:09:59 AM »
Love it and those big old cats are something aren't they I saw one airborne at Wanaka at the air show years ago  8) there is a book out there title RAAF Black Cats I believe would be good reading and a quote from Tora Tora Torra those navy guy's in their PBY's
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 12:24:39 PM »
Took her out for the maiden flight and while I was getting her out of my
van I crunched the tail plane. Have since fixed her but it has been so
windy so she is grounded. Plus I am now away having a holiday with
the beloved, managed to make the HARS museum at Nowra south of
Sydney where the is a real Cat!







The RAAF had nearly 400 Catalinas.

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 03:31:34 PM »
If you are near Swan Hill check out the Flying Boat museum at Lake Boga. They've got A24-30 (made up of bits).

Here's a few pics of a bit of maritime aviation history from a Cat to an over rated, over priced, "Ooo the yanks are selling something, let's buy it" toy  :)




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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2017, 12:51:36 PM »
"...to an over rated, over priced, 'Ooo the yanks are selling something, let's buy it' toy ."  The yank here says, "Duh, I don't get it.  I guess I need an explanation, Gunny.   Is that a Boeing 737 with the flip up wingtips?
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 02:56:09 PM »
Wow Great pic Neptune and Orion and I believe Herr Doc the Boeing is our equivalent  of Air Force One  8)
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 04:04:29 PM »
I think our government uses the Boeing 737 Business Jet sadly nothing as impressive as Air Force 1 nor as tricked up, it's basically a passenger jet with an office and bigger galley.

Back on topic though, not knowing much about planes, in the pic in your reply #3 the pic of the Catalina, is that a bollard next to the forward MG ? Don't seem to see it in thegunny's pic

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2017, 11:17:02 PM »
"...to an over rated, over priced, 'Ooo the yanks are selling something, let's buy it' toy ."  The yank here says, "Duh, I don't get it.  I guess I need an explanation, Gunny.   Is that a Boeing 737 with the flip up wingtips?

We are getting rid of the greatest maritime patrol aircraft even for some trumped up toy. It hasn't got any where near the capability of a P3 and a lot of militaries have realised this and are getting their P3's refurbished to as new by a firm in the states for a fraction of the cost of a POSeidon.

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 11:19:22 PM »
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Back on topic though, not knowing much about planes, in the pic in your reply #3 the pic of the Catalina, is that a bollard next to the forward MG ? Don't seem to see it in thegunny's pic

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I'm pretty sure it's retractable.

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 08:36:01 AM »
'Tis true, alas: the latest ain't always the greatest.  In fact, kidznowdays ain't half as good as us old coots. ;)
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2017, 07:20:18 PM »
Yep two Cats inside a week over 3,800klms apart, the Bull Creek Aviation
Museums in Western Australia. This Catalina wears US Navy markings.








Did a bit of a look around the net, the nose bollard is removable and was stowed in flight.

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 06:27:09 PM »
There was a Catalina base up here in Darwin in WW2 , the ramp they used to dry dock them is now used as a tourist fish feeding area.
When I was a kid you could still quite plainly see some Cat' wrecks in the river mouths near the base , sadly they were never  recovered or cared for.
I think there maybe an engine in the East Point War Museum though.


Image from Darwins Doctors Gully base.
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Broome's Flying boat tragedy, 3/3/42.
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 09:48:53 PM »
From memory A24-1 obviously the RAAF's first Catalina was left to rot on the shores of
Darwin Harbour. Thanks Yobbo as this is a nice lead into some more wrecked fling boats.

Please excuse me from getting a bit carried away and turning this into a bit of a once
upon a time type story. This little “quest in the west” has been a bit of a dream come
true for me as I have been interested in flying boat stories wherever they may have
occurred for many years.   

My wife an I have been interested in visiting Australia’s isolated north western corner
for many years. The opportunity finally arose and after the long flight from Sydney via
Perth we found ourselves in the Broome.

The small remote coastal town made many people wealthy on the back of the pearling
industry, which still exists today. I am a fan of history and Broome perhaps holds the
story of Australia’s most dramatic and tragic aviation related events.



In the early days of WW II the Japanese advanced their way south through Asia towards
the island nation, many europeans escaped via whatever means available. An obvious
method of escape by air, fights to Perth often staged via Broome with an airstrip and the
protected waters of Roebuck Bay for flying boats.


A memorial and Japanese gate looking south out over Roebuck Bay.

On the morning of 3/3/42 fifteen flying boats were moored in Roebuck Bay, five Dornier
D024s, eight Catalinas and two Empire Class flying boats. At around 9.30am nine Mitsubishi
A6M.2 Zero fighters of the 3rd Kokutai (Aircraft Group) arrived over Broome. All fifteen flying
boats as well as a number of land planes and other installations where destroyed. It is believed
around 80 people where also killed or lost at sea, the exact number to this day has not been
verified.


Broome Museum collection.

The local museum has a number of artefacts and photos from the event.


A water colour of a sinking Dornier with a Pearl lugger taking off passengers.
Broome Museum collection.




Dornier engine.


The remains of a Bristol Peagasus from one of the Empire Class boats.
 
We timed our visit to coincide with a lowish tide, .94m at 5.45pm. The tides in the area
can be some the most dramatic on the planet, on 25/6/17 the variance was from .94m
to 9.45m! I had make some local enquiries and was told the tide wouldn’t get low enough
to view the wrecks at the time of my visit. In retrospect I believe to locals discourage
walking out to the wrecks so as people don’t get caught out by the rapidly moving water!
Armed with a bit of determination and my trusty Canon I set off across the mud flats to
seek a flying boat wreck!   


Firstly came across some man made structure which didn’t look like a flying boat, correctly
deduced it was part of the old jetty which no longer exists.

It was quite a hike through sticky mud to the waters edge, had to wade in places through at
times knee deep water. I bumped into a couple of airline pilots who where also pretty keen so
we teamed up. Initially heading west towards the setting sun, with both the light fading and
the tide about to turnthings were’t looking too promising. Gave up on the western search
retraced my steps east, then off in the distance I spotted a dark line! On getting closer I
discovered my quest in the west, obvious remains of a wrecked aeroplane.


This is the remains of RAF Catalina FV-N, looking south west towards the coast.


In the foreground the starboard engine, the exhaust looking from underneath the rest of the
engine buried in the mud.


Standing in front of the port engine, you can see very clearly where the front turret would
site towards the left front of the image.


A little mystery, how did the starboard engine end up off to the port side? A number of reasons
I guess, maybe it exploded and was thrown that way or perhaps the tidal movement had moved
the fuselage?


Sometimes you just get lucky, there are a couple of hovercraft that do tours out over the mud flats,
right when I was about to leave this chaps showed up, off to the right you can just see some wreckage
of another flying boat.


Even luckier, not sure if the pilot/skipper put her in front of me I am grateful if he did! Again off in
the distance to the right you can see another wreck. Now sorry about the following but I simple
can’t help myself. “A wrecked flying boat with a boat that flies.”

An informative PDF with information about the wrecks.
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201202/r902141_9176580.pdf

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2017, 11:16:11 AM »
Wow cool thanks Pete that's a bit of History I never knew about very interesting! indeed 8)
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2017, 11:49:07 AM »
You are having a remarkable trip!  In about 1970, I found the remains of some pontoons inside the famous Ludendorff bridge tower at Remagen, Germany.  I recall a rather eerie feeling despite the intervening quarter century since the war.  It would not be surprised if the same feeling affected you now 65 years later.
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2017, 04:30:34 PM »
I've been to this site on Cocos home island. So close to the end of war as well  :(


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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2017, 07:16:47 PM »
  Qantas used to have a flying boat base on the swan river during WW2,they held the record for the longest flight routes between Australia (Perth) to Ceylon (Koggala) this route was known as the double sunrise route typically 24-31hrs in duration over the Indian ocean.
 
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2017, 07:19:25 PM »
Panzerman,
     What is the brand and were'd you purchase it from?.

   Chappie.
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2017, 08:38:14 PM »
She's a Dynam foamie chap, not hard to find them on the net.
Still haven't flown her as I'm away for a another couple of weeks.
I'm pretty keen now after all the Cat viewing I've been getting of late!

http://www.hobbyzone.com.au/dynam-pby-catalina-RTF

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2017, 11:18:26 PM »
 Cheers for that,is this the same model posted on RCGroups?.
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2017, 10:09:58 AM »
Yeah mate, I've spread myself around!

Those poor chaps on Cocos thegunny survived all the way to nearly the end RIP!

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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 10:30:19 PM »
Photobucket gonski sorted another way to get pic's up, will get the previous
pic's sorted down the track, in the mean time found myself another Catalina!

Catalina restoration near Rathmines, this old gem was imported from South
America, she has a long way to go but will one day be restored in RAAF markings.









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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2017, 01:32:40 AM »
Here's a good and very informative book on the Catalina.86058-0
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Re: RAAF Catalina
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2017, 05:39:22 AM »
If you see one out there buy it, firstly they are rare and secondly they are
a great document on Australia's aviation history. Way back then they first
came out you could buy a hard copy version, wish I'd bought one!

Just finishing off this Catalina themed thread, a piece of flying boat and
a boat that flies, sorry couldn't help myself!


On the way out of Broome found this plaque in main street.


At the airport one of the Dornier engines with a prop.


Finally looking down onto Roebuck Bay and Broome, you can see the airstrip in the
middle of the town.



Rest in Peace!