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Title: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 29, 2016, 11:27:21 AM
Here is my first attempt at 1/16 weathering, a standard Heng Long M1A2 Abrams in desert colors.  This is rather a simple weathering, as I wanted to keep the tank looking in quite good shape, just as I had seen in many photos from Iraq.  Everything was washed in a MIG wash for modern US armor.  In fact, on my first attempt, I got clumsy and spilled the wash right on the lower hull.  Some frantic cleaning with paper towels and cotton swabs convinced me that the method was not so bad after all, so I continued, but used an old flat wide brush instead.  Then I used some Tamiya spray on the tracks, wiping them as they were drying and even sanding them afterwards.  I messed about with some pastels on the suspension and rear, and finally sealed the lower hull and rear with clear Testor's Dullcote.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 29, 2016, 11:31:58 AM
I used the same wash a bit more sparingly on the upper surfaces, ran some subtle streaks down the side shields and front, and made a clear plastic fitting for the commander's independent target viewer, painting it with Model Master transparent red on the inside.  I would like to do something similar to the driver's, gunner's, and commander's hatch viewing blocks, but I need to work up some more skill first to fit these more complex shapes.

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It seems that a cooler (full of beer? soda? iced tea? water?) shows up on every Abrams, mostly in blue.  So far, I found an orange one (blue being out of stock), but I figured it would help the T72 commanders site in more effectively.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Leo 2A6 on April 29, 2016, 11:33:31 AM
Nice effort there Herr Dr.... 8) 8) nice to see a bit of stowage there too... :D

Yeah I think the cooler, or esky as we know em, are usually made in the blue, I have seen a red one but never an orange one I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for one of those...... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers
Damo
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 29, 2016, 11:46:02 AM
I let the rear show more messiness, as the photos from Iraq seemed to show the same.  Interestingly, in photos of the M1A2  either the center vent panel shows in black or both the center and right rear vent panels show in black.

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The Heng Long .50 cal. and .30 cal. lack some detail (although they are a bit better than the WWII version of the .50 cal. on the Sherman).  I did the best I could to replicate the black (not gun metal) for these with the tan mountings.  The .50 cal. ammunition box is open, so I could paint the belt, shells, and bullets.  The commander's hatch came damaged in the box, and I probably should have left it alone.  But I tried repainting it with the indicated FS color.  I immediately learned that HengLong color is darker than the FS color for the Abrams in desert camouflage, whether in Model Master Enamel, Model Master Acrylic, or Tamiya acrylic.  However, I left the commander's hatch (and a few other parts) in the correct shade while allowing the rest unaltered because I like the darker shade.   However, since HengLong's color is too dark as it is, I did not use any filter on the tank.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 29, 2016, 11:57:10 AM
I want to add some figures and more stowage to the Abrams as I can afford it, and there is so much more I should do, but for now I am ready for another project for a change.  All the photos here and above are expandable, and I have them at far greater resolution.  Much of the weathering does not show up in the photos here, but is evident in high-resolution images.

Here are the books I used:

Doyle, David.  M1Abrams: In Action. Squadron/Signal, 2013
M1A2 SEP: Abrams Main Battle Tank In Detail.  Sabot, 2016.
Mesko, Jim.  M1Abrams: In Action.  Squadron/Signal 1989.
Zaloga, Steven J.  M1Abrams Main Battle Tank 1982-92. Osprey, 1993.
Zwilling, Ralph.  M1A2 SEP V2 Abrams.  Tankograd, 2014.

and

M1Abrams.  Prime Portal.  http://m1a1.primeportal.net/ (http://m1a1.primeportal.net/). 2008.

Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 29, 2016, 12:02:40 PM
 :-[ Geepers!  I should have weathered the cooler!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on April 29, 2016, 12:05:39 PM
very cool my friend and at least you did the wheels as my Ol mate Gra pointed out that I omitted to do mine, my response was very proud tank crew cleaned their wheels every day LOL  ::) oh and you forgot the cooler LOL
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: VonRundstedt on April 29, 2016, 03:49:50 PM
Looks great professor, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Yobbo on April 29, 2016, 03:59:15 PM
Great effort , looks the goods.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: scalawag on April 29, 2016, 04:02:38 PM
 This looks great Herr Dr.  I like the cleaner look, and as you have said there are lots of pics of cleaner tanks in theatre.

One observations if I might, I think the ammo cans on the .50 and 7.62mm MGs would be green.  I usually paint mine in Tamiya Nato Green.  The Mgs look much better too with the handles added to the rear, the handlebar types seen on M1A2s.

I also use the tamiya weathering master compacts to add a dusty look.  The "A" compact has sand, light sand, and mud colours which are perfect for this tank.  Adds a dusty look especially on stowage and the like.  You just dust it on with an old soft brush.  Looks great on rubber tires too.

Anyway as I said I love this as is and these suggestions would only be little tweaks to what you have already done mate.  A great looking M1A2.

Paul
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on April 30, 2016, 01:20:13 AM
"...the ammo cans on the .50 and 7.62mm MGs would be green."

Thanks, Paul.  I know that real Abrams parts (and now the HengLong ones, too) are available in both the desert tan and green.  But the ammo cans seem to be mostly green.  (I wish I could remember the FS numbers...actually, I wish I could remember ;). )  So the next time I get to my LHS (which is not so "L," but is a good one for paints), I will get some Tamiya Nato Green.

After seeing one of the posts (likely yours) on the Tamiya weathering master compacts, I bought A,B,C, and D.  I also have some MIG Jimenez powders in Middle Eastern and North African shades.  I have not yet sealed the upper hull in Dullcote because I wondered if someday I might want to dust up the upper hull and turret more.   In fact, a bit of a dusting might lighten up the HengLong color.

I can see that, like my model railroad, my tanks are never done; I just get antsy to move on, and then I come back later.

Wobbly:  The high resolution originals of these photos I posted show that I have the wheels, tracks, and lower hull weathered more than in most of the photos of real M1A1s or M1A2s, except for the banged-up ones used for training drivers.  I think these Abrams crews do clean up their machines rather frequently.  In fact, many of the photos from Iraq and other desert areas show most--not all--Abrams quite clean, even when in action.   The truly weathered Abrams tanks are those that hit mines.  Those are sad sights, indeed.

Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: maxmekker on April 30, 2016, 01:28:35 AM
Herr Dr. doing some mighty fine work  :)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Chris on May 03, 2016, 07:38:34 PM
Looks pretty good to me great job Herr Dr
Cheers Chris
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 05, 2016, 06:41:06 AM
Thank you for the kind words, Maxmekker and Chris.  I am eager to get some more stowage on the Abrams and finish the ammunition cans in NATO green.  I keep looking at the model because the photos do not effectively show the weathering, which, though somewhat subtle, is much more noticeable than in the photos.

By the want, this past weekend I found a photo of an Abrams with an orange cooler in the rack at the back.  I am vindicated--though still a good target.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: darthgeoff on May 07, 2016, 02:25:24 PM
hey man where did u manage to get your Abram from iv been looking every where   
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 10, 2016, 06:53:57 AM
I bought the desert colored Abrams off of Amazon.com a few years ago; more recently I found the Abrams in woodland camouflage on eBay.  I am in the US, where the Abrams is more readily available than "down under" (as North Americans say).

You could check US eBay, where there are usually plenty of HengLong Abrams to choose among.  A few sellers on Amazon.com also show some.  However, if you are in Australia, then shipping would be expensive.  (I know: a few years ago, I bought a King Tiger from Australia, thinking the Henschel turret would never come to the US.  I paid hefty postage cost and just a few months later the King Tiger was offered here in North America with the Henschel turret.  Kick here, dummy!)


By the way, I have only one somewhat local source of tanks, only Taigen, and only a few versions.  Four or five years ago, a Taigen tank was put on display near the front door to a hobby store about 50 km from my town.  I nearly had a heart attack when I saw it.   The size just stunned me, especially since I have a long history with 1/16 farm equipment models.  Then when I saw that the tanks were Radio Controlled, I went berserk and walked out of the store with one box under each arm.--a Tiger I and an M26.[
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Reaper 332 on June 21, 2016, 09:05:19 AM
Nice Abrams Ed..... ;D
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on June 21, 2016, 10:52:48 AM
You are too kind, Ken.  I have a lot more to learn.  And here's a teaser: I just received a new goodie today, something a bit more unusual.  I will have photos a.s.a.p.
Title: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts - updated
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on June 22, 2016, 06:00:58 AM
On June 14, Fury 25 posted a link to a Haya resin M3 Grant built on a HengLong Sherman chassis.  Actually, on June 5 I had already ordered one, my savings taking a hit.  Paul the Scalawag knows of these, too, and he showed us some clear photos of the camouflage job used on the M3s at El Alamein.  http://hobbyhavoc.com/forum/index.php?topic=4686.msg42834#msg42834 (http://hobbyhavoc.com/forum/index.php?topic=4686.msg42834#msg42834)

Well, here are some photos of my new toy that just arrived yesterday.  All the photos are expandable.  I will need to replace or scratch build one exhaust, although Andrew Haya is on the lookout for the part already.  I'm sure there is much that could be done with the basic casting and electronics, but for now I am one happy old boy!


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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on June 22, 2016, 06:02:56 AM
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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Reaper 332 on June 22, 2016, 06:06:39 AM
Nice Ed .... looks like a well detailed bit of kit.

Cheers Ken
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Leo 2A6 on June 22, 2016, 08:21:14 AM
Looks great Ed looking forward to seeing where you take it

Cheers
Damo
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on June 22, 2016, 08:26:04 AM
Wow happy new toy Herr Prof enjoy mate!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Reaper 332 on June 22, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
Looks great Ed looking forward to seeing where you take it

Cheers
Damo

Damo I think he should send it down under for nice little holiday, repaint and weather up ( may take a few years for me to get it back to you though Ed....hehehe)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: AFV Aficionado on June 22, 2016, 12:46:15 PM
Nice, any plans on how to finish it?
I've heard the return rollers for Lee/Grants are different from Shermans - if you want to go that direction?

Mal
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on June 22, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
Well, Gents, I have so much to learn and so much to practice before I start doing anything dramatic to a tank that cost me--gulp--nearly 500 USD. :o   For now, I am just going to stick to practicing on standard HengLong tanks and other, far less expensive models.

I have just two Squadron books on the M3, and there is one Osprey book out there I can pick up when the money tree shakes a bit.  I know the tracks from the Sherman are wrong for the Grant, and I believe the return rollers were different, too.  (In fact, I think I recall reading in Son of Sherman that the return rollers changed on the Sherman somewhat early in its production run.)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: chappie on July 24, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Hey Ed,we're all constantly learning and I'm liking your choice in armour. 8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: jeman on July 24, 2016, 04:53:29 PM
LOKKS FANTASTIC !   Really like what you've done and I'm going to learn from it   WELL DONE Herr Dr. Professor   :)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Gary@VicarmourRCclub on July 25, 2016, 08:10:13 AM
WOW , so you bought the Grant built ?

Is it full RC when you get it ?

One of our members bought the vandramodel conversion and is now trying to work out what to do to get turret rotationas the kit doesn't supply it

Very nice .
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on July 25, 2016, 08:25:43 AM
Yes, I paid in blood (well, actually in Euros) for the "built" Grant.  The turret does rotate on mine, but the small gun has to be posed by hand.  The big gun only raises and lowers.  (Nerts!)

I am practicing on a Panzer III just now, keeping a record of everything I do and every paint, etc., that I use.  I have not taken photos all along of this weathering, but before too long I can show photos here and a list of what I did (don't expect much in the line of scratch-building).

Thanks for all your encouragement!  It's "Hobby Havoc" that turned my fun with RC tanks into fun weathering RC tanks.  Someday I will take on a Tamiya!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: VonRundstedt on July 25, 2016, 04:24:52 PM
Good stuff Ed, the tank looks awesome. Can't wait to see what you do with it.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Gary@VicarmourRCclub on July 25, 2016, 05:07:36 PM
Yes, I paid in blood (well, actually in Euros) for the "built" Grant.  The turret does rotate on mine, but the small gun has to be posed by hand.  The big gun only raises and lowers.  (Nerts!)

I am practicing on a Panzer III just now, keeping a record of everything I do and every paint, etc., that I use.  I have not taken photos all along of this weathering, but before too long I can show photos here and a list of what I did (don't expect much in the line of scratch-building).

Thanks for all your encouragement!  It's "Hobby Havoc" that turned my fun with RC tanks into fun weathering RC tanks.  Someday I will take on a Tamiya!


Thanks for the reply Ed.

The conversion is not for an amateur ... the member who has it will work at getting everything to work if it is humanly possible  ... regardless of how long it take ;)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts No. 2
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on July 28, 2016, 03:28:09 AM
Panzerkampfwagen III, Ausführung HTauchpanzer

HengLong Standard Plastic Version, 2.4 Ghz

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This is a version of the “Tauchpanzer” with a single “snorkel” as used in crossing the Bug River in Russia, not exactly the same as is shown in photos of the experimental versions prepared for Seelöwe, the invasion of Britain that, thanks in great part to the RAF, never occured.

The base color is HengLong’s version of Dunkelgelb, perhaps a bit darker than RAL 7028. However, according to MIG Jimenez Paints, the mid-war version of Dunkelgelb is the darkest variant.

Paints, Materials, and Weathering:

●   MIG Heavy Mud “Wet Mud” #1705

●   10 parts MIG Filter “Ochre for Light Sand” #1503 to 4 parts MIG Wash “US Modern Vehicles” #1007
   ○   entire undercarriage, lower hull, upper hull, turret, commander's hatch, and all accessories

●   AK Enamel “Track Wash” #083 and Testor’s Enamel “Steel” #1180
   ○   tracks; coated in wash; steel applied dry brush across the cleats

●   MIG set “Tools Colors” #7112 and Tamiya “Light Sand” #TS-46
   ○   tool colors used per directions on the set box; jack and pry bar tie downs first finished in Tamiya Light Sand and filter/wash as in 1) above

●   Rust-O-Leum Flat Black #7578
   ○   snorkel tube and vent, snorkel antenna (pending evidence of unpainted rubber or other materials)

●   PanPastel Weathering Kit “Rust and Earth” and PanPaster Weathering Kit “Greys, Grime and Soot”
   ○   exhausts:  overall base 740.8 Burnt Sienna Tint, unevenly covering; 380.1 Red Iron Oxide Extra Dark and 380.3 Red Iron Oxide Shade unevenly applied, especially toward engine end; dusting of 800.5 Black for soot, especially toward opening and on center rear of tank around exhaust pipes      

●   MIG Pigment Fixer #3000
   ○   to fix exhausts and to graphite around hatches and handles

●   JB Weld
   ○   for seams on accessories; especially the front tow brackets and linch pins

●   Powdered Graphite
   ○   for worn paint on handles and areas of hatches where crew hands or clothing would rub the paint surface repeatedly

●   Stock HengLong long antenna, shrink tubing, and Tamiya Dark Yellow #XF60
   ○   I saved the short, stock antenna as it is no use on 2.4 Ghz version.  I covered the the hole in the rear deck with a jack block the crew salvaged off another tank.  I cut a spare long HengLong antenna to 1/16 scale two meters, and cut the wound, spring-like end 5/32 inch.  I used Walther’s Goo to glue the spring-like end to a metal rod filed to fit.  Then I covered the remaining spring-like end with shrink tube and painted the shrink tube with Tamiya Dark Yellow #XF60.  I bent the mounting end so the antenna would drop into the antenna rail on the tank.  I drilled the antenna mount through to the inside of the upper hull so the metal mounting pin would fit through.  I can balance the antenna up or leave it down in the rack.  (Note: the long wooden block on the fender keeps the antenna from coming out the side of the antenna mount, but I can unscrew the block if needed.)

●   Testor’s Dullcote Spray #1260
   ○   covers the whole tank


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While I looked for photos of Panzer IIIs and especially Tauchpanzers, in various sources, my primary sources follow.  I especially used a photo in Spielberger's book to gauge the extent of mud splash (less than I expected).

Spielberger, Walter.  Panzer III: und seine Abarten.  Motorbuch Verlag, 2012.  ISBN-10: 978-3613035508.

Culver, Bruce and Bill Murphy.  Panzer Colours.  Illus. Don Greer.  Arms & Armour Press. 1981. ISBN: 0853684502.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Leo 2A6 on July 28, 2016, 03:37:38 AM
Looks great Ed

Cheers Damo
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on July 28, 2016, 03:45:26 AM
Thank you for your kind compliment, Damo.  As you know, this is not a record of a "build" so much as a record of slow learning.  Sometimes I get tense as I work, but it is fun when something works out well.  I was pleased with the "mud" (but the paint, being thick, takes a long time to dry).  I was especially surprised by how the filter/wash mix worked for me, though next time I will use a higher quality brush.  I compensated this time by working the filter/wash in mostly vertical strokes.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Tiger Tank on July 28, 2016, 04:06:33 AM
Excellent job on the weathering Herr Dr. looks just right well done.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: VonRundstedt on July 28, 2016, 04:40:40 PM
Nice result Ed, she looks great.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Yobbo on July 28, 2016, 04:50:34 PM
Great Job young Edward , looks really good.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Reaper 332 on July 28, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
Great job on the P3 Ed ..... ;D

Cheers Ken
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on July 29, 2016, 03:59:56 AM
Many thanks, Muchas Gracias, and vielen Dank for all your kind responses.  I now think I will brush the snorkel lightly and unevenly with the MIG Track Wash, as I am convinced that the thing was probably painted cast iron pipe.  Any photo I can find of the Panzer III prepared for or coming out of the Bug River shows the snorkel straight up in the air, as if inflexible.  Of course, if anyone has information, I am eager for help.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on July 29, 2016, 06:21:27 PM
Yes nice job Herr Prof looks good buddy  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Chris on July 30, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
Very well done Herr Dr looks great 😎😎😎
Cheers Chris
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 01, 2016, 05:17:18 AM
Thank you, Chris and Wobbly!  I am going to take a break for a while to turn to 1/48 airplanes and maybe even a UDT, an LST, other such landing craft.  But I am already at work on some 1/16 figures and thinking about a Sherman in winter camouflage.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on August 01, 2016, 06:28:34 AM
Cool don't forget keep us posted how about some 1/6 scale figures good fun  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: chappie on August 01, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
Nice weathering on your P111H Ed,if you can lay your hands on a copy Squadron/Signals Panzer 111 in action has a few pics of 18th panzer divisions Tauchpanzer and a short write up.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 03, 2016, 07:23:29 AM
Sorry, Wobbly, these will be 1/16 figures.  I cannot afford to get started on 1/6 figures. especially because then I would want 1/6 AFVs and etc.  I do watch your and others' postings on 1/16 figures.

Chappie: usually a Squadron/Signal "In Action" title is the first thing I check.  I cannot find one here in the US, but I will not give up.  As far as the Tauchpanzers go, I have seen only a handful of the same photos in various sources.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 08, 2016, 06:25:44 AM
Chappie, you were right to recommend the Squadron/Signal PzKfw III In Action book (No. 24).  I found a copy via eBay.  Just as you indicated, there are some photos I had not seen elsewhere.  It is interesting that Culver makes a distinction between the Tauchpanzer and a "wading tank" used to cross the Bug river (p. 18).  It seems to me that the HengLong toy is actually what Culver calls a "wading tank," with a shorter snorkel.

By the way, I bought eight other used books from the same the eBay seller at the same time.  The books came in so fast they nearly punctured my garage door, and the box included two extra magazines and a Squadron Signal book on the Hetzer.  The seller said the magazines were better than packing the books in cardboard and the Hetzer book's cover was not in good enough shape to sell on eBay.  Geepers!  The cover had a small coffee stain and a strange mark clearly from the original printing.   I'll order books from "Chapmansj" again.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts - AN AUSSIE M3
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on October 28, 2016, 11:42:21 AM
Update: Back on 21 June, Mal wrote about the Haya M3 Grant I bought "I've heard the return rollers for Lee/Grants are different from Shermans."  Yes, indeed, the M3 had the suspension system with the return rollers mounted directly atop the castings for the road wheel suspensions (VVSS).  But quite early in production, the Sherman VVSS was changed over to return rollers mounted out from the top of the castings on triangular arms.  These are the M4 suspension components on the Andrew Haya M3 conversion because Haya uses a HengLong lower hull, electronics, chassis, and tracks.

Well now Chappie has responded to my query about Australian and New Zealander AFVs in WWII, giving me the link to http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/. (http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/.)  The museum web pages show photos and point out that some Australian M3s had the newer M4 components.  In short, I have the makings of an
AUSTRALIAN M3 GRANT!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on October 28, 2016, 01:05:27 PM
Now that is cool hope you do us justice Ol buddy  ;)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on October 29, 2016, 05:07:20 AM
My first step, then, is to get information.  I will be checking the sources given me under the discussion at http://hobbyhavoc.com/forum/index.php?topic=4997.msg45156#new (http://hobbyhavoc.com/forum/index.php?topic=4997.msg45156#new).  However, I am interested in any other photos and information about Australian M3 Grant tanks.  I'd bet that no other North American will be making an Aussie version of the Grant.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Update 3/16/2017
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on March 17, 2017, 06:40:22 AM
I am working on a Taigen Sturmgeschütz III, still learning before taking on my custom resin M3 or Mato metal M10. :-\  The original paint job is Taigen's. The alterations I made are to remove and repaint the hand tools, cables, and a few other accessories.  The tools and accessories I removed I then painted as if they were off the tank when the camouflage was sprayed on.

Any accessories I did not remove (e.g. the jack and jack block) I repainted as if the crew had simply sprayed over them with the camouflage color.  Then I weathered with MiG Dust and/or a Pan Pastel medium gray.  The tracks are Tamiya Light Gun Metal and heavy MiG Track Wash.  I applied Testor's Glosscote where the decals were to go, added Peddinghouse Balkenkreuze decals, and sprayed the whole tank with multiple coats of Testor's Dullcote.  As you can see, the decals still silvered.  So I went over the decals again with some Pan Pastel medium gray and re-coated the flat coat, but doing so did not help.   >:( :(

I now want to avoid having to use a gloss paint to get the wash to run around the deep lines defining the hatches.  So I have in mind an experiment in place of a wash for the closed hatches.  I will let you know how my experiment works.

After that I will consider some stowage.  Do you have any stowage recommendations?

The tank has metal motors, drive sprockets, and idlers.  It has standard Taigen (HengLong) sound, but I may upgrade it someday, as I have an Elmod around, and I am becoming more familiar with the Clark TK22.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: Yobbo on March 17, 2017, 08:07:51 AM
Loos great Proff' , top work on that beast.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: VonRundstedt on March 18, 2017, 08:28:27 PM
Very nice Stug professor, shame the decals gave you a hard time. I usually avoid them where I can as I prefer to paint my numbers and insignia on with stencils. I have found though if you use a sharp scalpel you can cut all the excess layer away from the decal so you are only applying what you want to see. It can be tricky with rounded subjects but with German crosses etc its fairly straight forward, just use a ruler and cut as close as you can to the decal. Cheers.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on March 19, 2017, 05:02:43 AM
Yes, VonRundstedt, had I only known....  Peddinghouse decals are notorious for breaking up if soaked too long or if one uses too much setting solution on them.  In fact, I first applied the decal to the fire extinguisher, cutting it closely.  As I lay it on the fire extinguisher casting, the decal began to break into two parts and I had to float it and fiddle it about with setting solution.  So on purpose, I did not cut closely around the printed area of the Balkenkreuze decals, hoping they would hold together.  Some days things just go wrong. ::)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: wobbly on March 19, 2017, 07:08:38 AM
Indeed agreed nice Stug Herr Doc love the Camo and as for some days I find it to be most days when modelling  :'(
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update again 5/16/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 17, 2017, 12:27:51 PM
I first showed photos of this M3 Grant last June when it arrived from England.  I finally got back to the Grant a few weeks ago. The upper hull is a resin aftermarket kit, done by Andrew Haya's folks.   The lower hull is stock HengLong Sherman with 2.4 GHz, so there are a number of inaccuracies.  For now, given my need of more practice and the fragility of the upper hull, I decided to leave the tank alone except to paint the bare metal drive sprocket and idler. First I primed with Rust-0-Leum 2X gray primer.  (2X in gray, rust red, or white makes a great base for enamels or acrylics.  On metal it dries fast; on plastic it is best to give it a week's drying time.)  Then I finished the parts with Model Master's version of FS30487 Olive Drab, my favorite.  A bit of baking time in a cool oven (about 60 C; 135 F) hardened the paint on the sprockets and idler.  Then I primed the tracks with the same primer and painted them with Tamiya Light Gun Metal.  Seeing that the finished tracks looked like the same as when they were bare metal, I asked "Why did I do that?"

I hope you are not too disappointed that I did not perform magic surgery on this tank, but sometimes I just like 'em pristine.  I hope to give the Grant a clean British crew and let them parade before the brass.


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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: wobbly on May 18, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
Cool I like it I did want to do my Walker Bulldog like that as they were made by Cadillac and thought you can not have a dirty Caddi! but I got talked out of it we ended up weathering it   :o
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 18, 2017, 12:34:59 PM
Despite the "showroom" condition, I would still like to add (besides the crew) tools (clean condition) and a neatly looped tow cable per the photos in the Squadron "M3 Lee and Grant In Action" book.  Yet I will still be severely compromising the accuracy. :-[  There should also be full dust shields, but were I to add these, I would have to make them removable so I could get access to the tracks should I need to do so or find the correct track pads.  There are also many other errors, most noticeably the bogies (return wheels should be right on top as with very early Shermans).
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 19, 2017, 06:03:30 AM
Well, maybe not all of the Grant tanks had dust shields.  Or perhaps some were damaged in use.  Here is what appears to be a vintage photos of M3 Grants without a dust shield:

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: biff131 on May 23, 2017, 10:50:02 AM
Ed have you checked out the sherman tank site at www.theshermantank.com (http://www.theshermantank.com)
It shows the different versions of the m3 lee and grant- only used by british  ;D
happy tankin
biff  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 3/16/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 26, 2017, 07:45:17 AM
Biff, I am sorry to be slow to reply; a nasty summer cold kept me dizzy or asleep for nearly five days.  Thank you: I now have the Sherman Tank site bookmarked.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts update 5/25/17
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 26, 2017, 08:05:22 AM
The master fiend of all, eBay, got me a few weeks ago.  I found an inexpensive, base model HengLong M4A3(105) Sherman which a fellow apparently bought cheaply and modified to represent a small hatch British version.  Whether this configuration is authentic or not, I have not yet been able to confirm.  I need to check my increasing number of print and online sources on Shermans.  The small hatch modification is not great, and the paint job looks to be airbrushed Tamiya Dark Yellow with hand brushed black and white.  Crude as it is, I like the little beastie.  I touched up some things here and there, but for now even retained the .50 cal with sagging barrel (probably fired too long by a Hollywood tank commander in some unrealistic film ;)).  Here are some expandable photos.

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This last photo illustrates what is possible when one lives without a spouse.  One can even keep tanks on the kitchen shelves.  Of course, such choices probably help prevent any chances for future spouses, too. ;D

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: wobbly on May 26, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
Nice good score Herr Doc and something out of the norm I like it!  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: AFV Aficionado on May 26, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
Hi Prof
That's not one of Fyndads/Frankie's productions is it?
They're usually pretty good - he posts pics of them on RC Tank Warfare & RC Universe.

Mal
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on May 28, 2017, 03:07:50 AM
No, Mal, this Sherman was done by a fellow of whom I had never heard, but whose eBay rating was just fine.  Last night I had some time to check about in Ampersand Publishing's Son of Sherman: it turns out that a number of M4A3 (105) tanks were produced in '44 at the Chrysler Defense Plant, and no few were sent out on LendLease, so perhaps there was just such a tank.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Update 10 August 2017
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 11, 2017, 03:39:40 AM
Since there have been few (but good) new photos as of late, I have simple ones to share.  All are expandable with a click.  These show the Herr Dr. Professor Workshop, accommodating up to five modelers at one time.  The decor is Late 20th Century Really Unfinished Basement.

Here's an overall view of three of the five work spots, these three being occupied by old guys with "season tickets," for weekly Tuesdays and Fridays:

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These are two photos of the spot for "the Heeb" (based not on his religion, his name), who is currently rescuing a 1/48 B-17 he had for three years given up as a wreck.

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This is the spot for the USMC veteran Agent Orange Eater Steve, who takes most of his stuff home to work on the rest of the week, but is currently on a 1/35 Huey, a 1/35 FlaK 88, a 1/16 HengLong tanker, and I forget what else...

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 11, 2017, 03:47:54 AM
Here is about 1/3 of Herr Doctor Professor's paint supplies, acrylic and enamel spray bombs, acrylic and enamel bottles for brushing and airbrushing, even a stack of old airbrushes and repair parts.  Other paints and supplies are located around the others' spots.  From among these one or two have a perplexing habit of slowly disappearing on Tuesdays and Fridays.  Hmm... ::)

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And Herr Doc always keeps a few small friends around for company.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 11, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
For airbrushing and paint bombs, there is a spray booth with filter and forced-air ventilation.  Generally, we just keep the flexible vent pipe stored in its box so the fumes can mix with various glues, thinners, cleaners, etc., providing an enticing atmosphere and the potential for breaking the monotony if the Heeb should decide to light a candle to heat swage a plastic part.

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Herr Doc. keeps a Nahverteidigungbücherschrank with some of his reference books to settle arguments and prove that he is always correct about any given detail.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 11, 2017, 04:19:38 AM
Then, too, Herr Doc.'s spot shows a slow start on another HengLong US tanker and a 1/18 FlaK 88.  (Not showing, but in slow progress toward embarrassing results are a stock Henglong German commander, a resin Yugoslavian Chetnik fighter (sans machine gun with recarved right hand) and a stock HengLong Sherman M4A3 105 with a few touch-ups.)

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And nearby on a third worktable is a chorus line of two Andrew Haya M3 Grants and one Lee, as well as a naked Dunkelgelb Taigen Sturmtiger.  These are just hanging around, wondering if any work will ever be started on them, much less completed.

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Not shown are nearby piles of 1/16 RC tanks, a very few 1/25 RC tanks, 1/18 airplanes, 1/16 farm tractors and implements.  Nor do these show the 900 square foot O gauge train layout, under which are stored trains, more 1/16 RC tanks, and display shelves of 1/18 AFVs, figures, and soft targets.

Herr Doc. is not addicted to toys. ;)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Latest Update Aug. 10, 2017
Post by: wobbly on August 11, 2017, 08:51:24 AM
Awesome my friend can never have Too many toys  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Latest Update Aug. 19, 2017
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 20, 2017, 08:27:30 AM
The following is a "bone stock" HengLong M4A3 (105) with the old crystal RC board and transmitter.  It was one of the first tanks I bought, but just in the past few weeks I gave it a bit of weathering.  I have added rain and dirt streaking, an overall filter to make the OD seem dirtier, some "welded on" angle iron, and boards across the transmission housing to hold stowage (similarly dirty and rain streaked).  Then I painted the stock HengLong tank commander and set him to opening the hatch as if he were watching while about to button up.  Each of the photos is expandable by clicking on it.

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Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Latest Update Aug. 19, 2017
Post by: Yobbo on August 20, 2017, 08:41:06 AM
Great work on the Sherman and a top figure painting effort , he looks really good.
Pretty sure you have the ammo box on the wrong side of the fifty though? Unless I'm mistaken? Best have a look through you reference library mate.

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There's no way Clint and son would have it wrong. :)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Latest Update Aug. 19, 2017
Post by: Leo 2A6 on August 20, 2017, 08:54:28 AM
That's a classic Heng Long stuff up you could stick a charging handle on the opposite side as they were built in left and right handed configs though mainly for duel mounted/side by side weapons such as M16 AA quad mounts and turrets such as in the bow of PBRs.

Cheers
Damo
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts Latest Update Aug. 19, 2017
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on August 22, 2017, 06:39:28 AM
Thank you for the correction!  I actually thought the canister could be loaded from either side.  Now I realize that my thinking was a bit cuckoo--not in my case a surprise.  I just wiggled the ammo canister out without any paint damage.  In minutes, I had the canister over on the correct side.

Is there a good reference source on the .50 cal.?  I have done some internet searches over the past few years, but never with satisfactory results.  I could use good close-up photos, information on the exact color for WWII, and even instructions on how the MG works.
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on November 20, 2017, 04:45:07 AM
These past few months, I have been busy with a host of activities, having just one afternoon a week at the static modeling table.  One kit on which I am making humble progress is the Merit 88.  The gun itself on its cruciform base was available pre-built in Dunkelgrau and Dunkelgelb camouflage.  However, the kit includes the carriage, too.  I have had the kit for four or five years already, but decided to dive into it in July. 

In all, there are 350 pieces in the kit and the instructions are dicey going.  Despite my viewing and reviewing the instructions multiple times before even beginning, there were a few surprises, leading me to do some forceful disassembly accompanied by select improper verbiage.  The kit is surprisingly delicate for 1/16 scale, and more than once during assembly I broke off small parts just trying to somehow hold the gun.  Finally I mounted the gun assembly upside down in a crude jig so I could add parts.  I primed some parts on the trees and spent hours sanding and filing off seams and part line flash before scraping away primer for assembly.  Then I re-primed, reworked some more, and airbrushed two coats of Lifecoat Dunkelgrau.  Dissatisfied with the colour, I switched to Tamiya TS4 spray bomb for a better finish.  I went back with the Tamiya paint multiple times as I had to rework or re-assemble parts.

There is some posaeble action.  The gun poses up to AA position or down for anti-tank action, with the low-pressure hydraulic rams moving.  The breech block slides; the landing pads can raise or lower; and the stakes can be set in position to be driven in the ground or stored.  Two opposite arms of the cruciform base fold up for mounting the gun on its carriage.


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The next step is the carriage assembly. Aaaarrghh!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: wobbly on November 20, 2017, 08:51:14 AM
Nice who doesn't love an 88? good job Doc  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: biff131 on November 25, 2017, 10:18:31 AM
ED
This site has reference articles on the fifty cal just go to articles in the menu.  www.usarmymodels.com (http://www.usarmymodels.com)
Mal aka afv aficionado also has an article on his fifty and refers to the same site  ;D
Biff  8)
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: Herr Dr. Professor on November 26, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
Thank you, Biff.  I actually have that web site (and about 100 others) bookmarked, but never looked there for information on  the .50 cal.  I will also scrounge around for Mal's article.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Herr Dr. Prof's modest efforts 19 November 2017 update
Post by: pkdiorama on January 01, 2018, 12:19:39 PM
Wow Ed nice collection nicely done had client ( fill in job ) he was in wheel chair and was a crew member in Aussie Grant told me how they got it bogged up to chassis , wish i had more time to talk to him but there to do your job  Cheers Pete.